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whats goin on there man? i was at the website and lookin around and someone said that they wanted to model themselves after ted bundy. i am not at a computer where i can e-mail the site direct from the link so i was wondering if you could forward this next paragraph to the page with all of the letters. by the way i found your page to be the best on the internet. you do very good research.

TED BUNDY WANNABE
YOU OBVIOUSLY DIDN'T READ THOSE SERIAL KILLER BOOKS TO WELL BECAUSE IF YOU SAW ANY OF THE WORDS IT WAS OBVIOUS THAT TED DID NOT KILL OUT OF HATE. TED WAS A GOOD GUY AND HE SAVED PROBABLY AS MANY LIVES AS HE TOOK. AND THAT IS FROM THE AUTHOR OF THE BOOK "THE STRANGER BESIDE ME" WHO WAS FRIENDS WITH TED FOR 10 YEARS. YOU CAN'T MODEL YOURSELF AFTER A SERIAL KILLER. THEY DON'T TRY TO PLAN THINGS OUT MOST OF THEM ALREADY HAVE A METHODICAL MIND. NOT TO MENTION THAT MOST OF THEM KILL FOR THE ENJOYMENT(DISPLACED ANGER) NOT FOR THE HATE. BEING A SERIAL KILLER IS SOMETHING THAT IS A PROCESS THAT IS NOT LEARNED ON PERPOSE. THAT IS WHY NOT MANY OF THEM ARE CAUGHT BY POLICE SKILL. THEY ARE CAUGHT CUZ THEY WANNA BE CAUGHT. IF IT WAS LEARNED THE WAY YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THEN THEY WOULD HAVE ZERO PROBLEM CATCHING ANY ONE OF THEM. IT IS LEARNED IN A SUBTLE MANNER, NOT FROM BOOKS, BUT FROM EXPERIANCE. WHETHER IT BE FROM ABUSE, DISTRESS, OF ANY SORT EMOTIONAL PHYSICAL OR WHATEVER. IF YOU ARE GONNA MODEL YOUR METHODS FROM ANYTHING, MODEL THEM FROM WHAT TED AND THE REST OF THEM DID TO GET CAUGHT AND DON'T DO THAT. WHY DON'T YOU LOOK AT THE GREEN RIVER KILLER WHO HAS NEVER BEEN IDENTIFIED. YOU WILL PROBABLY LOOK HIM UP AND THEN SAY NOONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT HIM. WELL NOW YOU GET IT. THATS WHY HE NEVER GOT CAUGHT. HE DIDN'T MODEL HIMSELF AFTER ANYONE. NOW IF YOU RESEARCH THAT THEN YOU WILL KNOW THAT TED BUNDY TRIED TO HELP WITH THE INVESTIGATION FOR THE GREEN RIVER KILLER. I AM IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A CRIMINOLOGIST A PROFILER AND A PSYCHOPATHOLOGIST. SO I STUDY THESE GUYS BACK FORTH LEFT AND RIGHT. JUST DON'T DO SOMETHING LIK THAT. I THINK TED BUNDY WAS FASCINATING BUT GREAT IS SOMETHING THE WORLDS TOP SERIAL KILLERS CANNOT BE.

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just wanted to keep you informed...several skeletal remains found here in last few months;also, several women murdered in last year, two more missing. the press here are keeping this real quiet, but there are three other unsolved murders here over the past decade...maybe worth investigating? some women here are getting a little afraid

Again I implore you to clean up your factually incorrect synopsis of the case of The West Memphis Three. Several of your facts in point are totally wrong and I would love to know who your source is. John Mark Byers perhaps? Or maybe it is Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny?

Hello. I would like to see some info on Bhagwan's (now called Osho) cult community; they established a city in Oregon in the eighties. They did not kill anyone but they did poisoned 700 people in Dallas and tried to kill oregon's D.A. Maybe these people don't fit in your "killer cults" page, but had the government given them a little extra time these cult could have been similar to revernd Jones' cult. Anyways, why not build a sepparate section on strange cults, those who have not killed themselves or others? After all, they are candidates in self immolation, some of them could (or should I say "will") appear in your page sooner or later. The funny thing aout Bhagwan's city in oregon is that they took over a small town called "antelope"; months later they controlled the town entirely, The even changed it's name to something like "rajhnessh town".

Do you have any info on Graham Young, born in the 60? In England Poisoned his family with Thallium...especially interested in his suicide in prison He was the subject of a film entitled "the Young Poisoner's Handbook"

Hmm. Quite a selection of homicidal personalities that you have amassed in this posting area. They certainly have a strong command of profanity. Should you maintain this site long enough, chances are that certain individuals here will have the good fortune of making a name for themselves among the mongrels featured on this website. The subject of serial killer psychology is certainly a fascinating one, but I fear the apparent obsession some people here have displayed (whether they wish to admit it or not) screams of their own future psychosis. However, it is the dawn of the new millennium, and many in Europe during the era of the year 1000 displayed similar anti-social behavior. Perhaps the psychological affect of it all can provide some explanation for this and reassurance that we are not witnessing the birth of a new generation perpetrators of serial and mass homicide.

I feel that serial killers are very interseting in the ways that, they are always one step ahead of the police and most important the FBI. To become a serial killers you have to find someone you really hate or just feel like kill someone. You have to mke sure that you plan everythink out, make sure that you find everythink there is to know about that person before you get the chance to go in for the kill. I have read books on serial killers and hope on day to model myself on the great TED BUNDY. The man who inspired some many other serial killers to join the pack.

This is truly a great site, I was wondering why there was nop info on the current rash of murders here in KC. where all the women are prostitutes, beleived to work the same area, and all dumped into the missouri river, Do you have any info on this one? Since it is happening now i was curious if you guys were following it?

you site saved my life, i got a "b" but i would of gotten an A if i was any good at grammar, it lost 14 points just because of that, i did my project "A profile of a Serial Killer" like how they grew up and things that effected them when they were kids, it was pretty interesting, i am into that dark stuff, i am not a dark person or anything but that stuff just kinda gets my attention because it is so messed up ya know, your site made my work much easier, only trouble was that your site was so good i used it for my whole report and i needed 5 sources so i had to find some others, teehee some made up, but my teacher didnt check all the websites i made up, hahahha. well, keep all the good up, ok

I was given this handy item for cult filtering.

Cults...
+ add to the Bible for their proof texts
_ subtract from the diety of Christ
x multiply the ways of salvation
/ divide the flock or church members through doubt

I thought i would point this one out to you if you didn't catch it last week, for the 'killer cult' section. In Lagos, Nigeria several police were killed in a gun battle after storming the compound of some Islamic sect/cult. As it was a sidebar news item, they didn't give anymore details but perhaps its worth looking into.

Hello,my name is jay.I`m from New Bedford MA. Was wondering why you don`t have anything on the highway murders that occured here about 8-10 years ago.I think there was 11 prostitutes found over the cource of a year.

I am truly disgusted at your description of the "West Memphis Three." It is so far fromt he truth! Most of your facts are not correct, and I wish your would verify them before putting nonsense like that on a web page.

5/22/98

I have noticed that many serial killers seem to be from the mid-west, specifically Ohio. Any speculation as to why? Have you noticed this?

I found that your archive begins on August 19th, 1995 and ends May 1998. But what about the time before? Are there any details or documents you have before August,19th, that are not in the net anymore because it's too long ago? I'd be very interested in such "news"! Your sites were the first and still the only ones I found that gave me the opportunity to get a look at the sequences of such events. And I'd like to find out more about earlier murders, arrests, confessions, charges, convictions, and anything there is to know about serial killers. Including their childhood, youth, family, nationality and so on. But yet I had to struggle with hundreds of links which didn't even were related to my questions. Please don't get me wrong! I don't want you to do my "work" but to help me get the information I'm looking for. So, if you have any idea where I can get infos, or if you have some more details or documents that would help me getting forward with my work, please mail me.

I really enjoy reading your various articles about bad guys. While I appreciate your coverage of Mr. Kinkel's recent activities, for example, if I were you I'd start using the word "alleged" until a conviction is in place. Like it or not, he is currently presumed innocent of any crime.

Chalie-
Hey man how's it hangin' ? I am visiting your homepage and reading about Sharon Tate. Man, you must have a strong stomache because I couldn't see all of that happening. Do they let you Email people back? If so, I would apprecite it if i could hear back from you. I have a friend across the street that knows everything there is to know about you. If you ever get on America On-Line, Instant Message me and we'll chat. I guess I'll chat with you later.

It has been suggested that there was a miscarriage of justice regarding the Case of Wayne Williams, for three reasons. Firstly, because the evidence was unreliable, his arrests may have been possibly ethnically motivated as many Black leader. Secondly, A Klansman confessed to the killings, but this evidence was D-noticed to prevent rioting, but psychos confess to anything, even if they didn't do it. An Analogy would be where my mother's pupils claimed to have murdered the princess of Wales, even though the French investigation is bueareaucratic in itself. The pupil in question was a schizophrenic. Thirdly, There are, according to the FBI, several (4) other killiers are active in the Atlanta area, which is being kept quiet, but the flaws in the evidence against him points out that on the balance of probabilities, there is a possible miscarriage of justice, but this should be one possiblity, not an end result.

I am looking for information regarding James Armstrong. He was convicted for 1st degree murder of a coed in Michigan in the late 1960s. He was also strongly linked to 7 others in Michigan and 1 in California. Thew were sex crimes and took place over a 2-3 year period.

Sad and disturbing news today out of Australia. Martin Bryant, the most prolific lone gunman mass murderer in the entire WORLD, who successfully slaughtered a total of 35 people during a 48 hour rampage of death in April of 1996, was physically attacked on Wednesday, inside of Risdon prison.

I am grateful that the injuries suffered by Martin appear to not be serious, and should not cause any permanent damage to Martin. Nevertheless, he was physically attacked by a fellow inmate, and suffered bruises to his head and neck. Martin was treated at the prison hospital for the bruises, and might still be receiving treatment, but the injuries definately were not very serious, praise the non-existent gods.

We learn below that Martin's attacker will NOT face ANY criminal charges in connection with the attack. That is an OUTRAGE. Even if Martin somehow taunted this other inmate, or even made sexual advances to him, as he allegedly has done in recent months to other prisoners, unless Martin PHYSICALLY TOUCHED the other inmate, prior to the assault, the other inmate should DEFINATELY face ASSAULT charges.

Martin is a very famous man. He is truly a celebrity. There is NO doubt in my mind that he is the MOST famous prisoner in all of Australia. The prison authorities need to send a message to ALL human beings that if they try to hurt or kill Martin, they will be SEVERELY punished, to the fullest extent of the law. That makes the decision by authorities to not to bring any criminal charges against Martin's attacker all the more PERVERSE and totally unjustifiable! A prison official states that no charges will be filed against Martin's attacker because of "the circumstances in which the assault took place", but he refuses to explain this vague statement any further. IMO, the ONLY issue should be, did Martin physically touch this other inmate in a violent or undesired fashion FIRST, or did the other inmate touch/assault Martin FIRST/ If the latter is true, then assault charges MUST be filed against Martin's attacker, and there is NO justification for prison officials declining to do so.

This is the fist time, in Martin's 2 years of imprisonment as the most famous killer in Australia, that he has been physically attacked by anyone. Martin did make a few half-hearted and minor attempts to hurt/kill himself, in the year following his arrest, but none of those attempts were serious, and it appears that Martin HAS begun to cope better with life in prison, in recent months. The fact that he has begun making sexual advances to fellow inmates this year, while not a wise course of action, does indicate that Martin is feeling a bit more comfortable, and adjusting to life, behind bars.

Martin is being housed within the Risdon prison HOSPITAL, rather than within the general prison population, because this way he can be kept somewhat apart from other inmates. Immediately after being found guilty of the 35 murders, Martin was placed in an isolation cell, but last year he was transferred to a normal cell, that was specially placed within the hospital wing of the prison, as an acknowledgement of Martin's great fame and the need to keep him separated from the general prison population. Still, he does have daily contact with some prisoners, in the hospital wing.

In the below article it is even stated, very clearly, that "Martin is credited as being the world's worst lone gun killer." Of course I KNEW this to be true right after the incident occured, but it is still very nice to see the local Australian media giving Martin full credit for his UNIQUELY amazing and impressive accomplishment, of being NOT just Australia's most prolific lone gun killer, but the most prolific lone gun killer in the ENTIRE WORLD.

I certainly wish Martin all the best, and I hope he makes a quick and full recovery from this assault, and that he suffers no lingering trauma, emotional or otherwise, as a result of the attack. Martin deserves to live out his life in peaceful contentment, and to not be subjected to any type of abuse, mistreatment, or violence.

I just viewed this comment and cannot believe someone can be so blind as to why this information is here in the first place. The post read: I really think that you guys are ill. How can you try to make money of something so horrible. By selling those t-shirt you are saying to the youngster using the Internet that it is correct to kill hundred of innocents, and that they can get fame out of it. You are directly promoting violence our society

Now how stupid. First of all so called youngsters can be blocked from such sites, it is freedom of speech and it's a parents responsiblilty to control what their "youngsters" view and do not view. On the topic of making money from t-shirts, they are not making a "hero" out of the image, they are making a statement and reminding us of the chaos and insanity in this world (by the way do any proceeds go to the families of the victims, I do not know but gee at least I thought to ask.)

Now I see no way that the sale of these shirts in any way promotes violence or says to someone, hey gee look at that shirt now I have to kill someone. If you see a shirt that says " go fuck yourself " will you, I highly doubt it.

The thing that annoyed me the most is the statement "you are directy promoting violence." This is the most narrow minded opinion I have ever heard ! I see it as more of an education. When learning about these people, their profiles, methods and minds you are educating yourself against becoming a victim, not to be as trust worthy and learn how to protect yourself from becoming a victim yourself......As an example: I read many true crime books and had 2 teenage employees working for me. They trusted anyone, would get into a car with anyone, would go out on a first date alone with anyone, without ever thinking that perhaps these people were dangerous. I deliberatly gave them some of these books to read and it scared the hell out of them......it didn't "promote violence", what it did do was promote and highten their sense of awareness and put the fear of god into them.. They no longer do these foolish things....they always go on first dates (and seconds) with friends in public places and so on.....I am sure you get the idea..... SO FACTS STATED......DON'T BE SO ONESIDED OR BLIND....LEARN !

WHO KNOWS IT MAY PERHAPS SAVE YOUR LIFE ONE DAY !!!!

Your page kicks ass. Ive been following it for a coupl of yeras now....It rules...much better than watching those crappy shows on A&E...

I have an interest in serial killers and other criminals because I wonder what in society makes men commit this madness. I read books like True Crime by Colin Wilson and every once in a while I read some of your entries on serial killers at your Mayhem Net site. I want to congratulate you for your work. You've provided a great deal of good information on true crime, though your use of slang does detract from the overall work.

I saw your article on Nikolai Dzhurmongaliev, who was believed to have murdered over a hundred women and served some of their bodies at dinner parties. I recognized the background of newspaper clippings; it is from a site at http://www.iceworld.de.

The first time I saw this article was in 1995 or 1996 at this IceWorld website that contained little bits about various killers. When I read the bit on Dzhurmongaliev I was disgusted. I searched on Yahoo and Alta Vista for "Kyargyzstan" and "Dzhurmongaliev" but found that only that site had anything about this story. The original IceWorld page no longer seems to be up, but I saw your page eventually pick up this story and add it to your page. I have found at least three other webpages that have picked up this story from your page:

In April of 1997, a website called "Morbid Fact Du Jour!" lifted this story off of your page and called it a "morbid fact of the day." It is obvious because the paraphrased story has the exact same wording as the one found on your Russian Cannibals page.

Another 1997 website that has a non-fiction work about serial killers which is titled "Danger in the Red Light District" mentions Dzhurmongaliev briefly.

This site titled "Welcome to Hell" apparently copies the serial killer page from Mayhem word for word, which includes the description of Dzhurmongaliev.

I believe this article is a false tabloid because killers just don't get away with things like that. A few killers have killed more than a hundred people but no one could do it all in the same neighborhood. And serving dead corpses at parties? How long would it take neighbors to realize that something's up? Notice that the article doesn't say anything about when this all took place or mention any names other than this Dzhurmongaliev fellow. If this news were true it would be front page news all over the place. Howcome this little obscure site at IceWorld was the only one to carry this news? From the cutout we can't even tell what the source was of this article.

You may have gotten your information from other sources I don't know about, so I don't want to seem presumptuous. But if that IceWorld page was the only source you got your information from, I would suggest taking it off. As the torrent of information floods through the internet, falsehoods are spread at lightning speed.

Check out what is going on in L.A. People are being shot in white cars. They all happened in the around 3AM on off ramps or on ramps and all were shot to death. No valuables were taken. The news has been hush about this matter, but I think that this will be a big deal because it is so quick and escape is so easy.

Hello, I lived my first 20 years in the West Memphis area and have been following this story from the start.

I have never heard that Miskelley was drinking beer with Mark Byers on that fateful night. Could you please share your source of this story. Also, I heard that Byers was a 'narc' or informer for the police. Please advise.

(BTW - according to some dastardly tales in circulation, Mark could have a bodycount of at least 5 (some say 6). I hesitate to contribute to such rumors though.

hello, i am currently doing a research project on sylvia seegrist and i was having no luck until i found your web page. I live very close to the shopping mall where ms. seegrist threw her little temper tantrum and i was actually at the mall with my mother earlier that week.

I know how this is gonna sound...but so what, eh? You should offer a Andrew Cunanan 1 year aniversary shirt.....Front could be the photos from his FBI wanted posters and the back......National tour April 29, 1997-July 29, 1997 Sounds kinda sick I know but I think it would be really cool

What kind of person would videotape a killing, i.o.w. a snuff film? Their main reason for doing so would be to place the film & images on the internet or thru underground distribution.

They would be very selective and only kill convicted murderers/molesters that happen to be released on probation or thru' a technicality.

You've got to get info on the Zoo Man, thus named because he took prostitutes to the Knoxville Zoo, where his father still works as the elephant trainer, to have sex. He is known to have killed four prostitutes. His trial is in September. He was discovered by (made famous by Patricia Cornwell) Dr. William Bass and KPD Criminalist Aurthur Bohanan. (Lyall Shade and Dr. Thomas Katz, respectively). I'm going to the Body Farm, ya know.

First off, I would like to say that I am pleased to see your interest in crime. It is somewhat of a hobby of mine to read about cerial killers and cannibals. I love your page because it is accurate- unlike a lot of the other web pages.

Sorry if this was a waste- but I thought you might like to hear some praise every once and a while. Oh yeah- I am adding a link to your internet crime archives to my page.

I JUST WANT TO SAY HOW REFRESHING IT IS TO READ FACTS INSTEAD OF THE USUAL CRAP THE MEDIA COMES OUT WITH. I HAVE ALWAYS BEEN FASCINATED BY THE MINDS OF THESE PEOPLE, BUT FOUND IT NEXT TO IMPOSSIBLE TO LOCATE ANYTHING WORTH READING. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

Somebody should point out, that the post here a while back asking if this site was a 'Crime Stopper' sort of thing has to be one of the dumbest questions that have ever been asked! In the UK, there is an organisation called Crimestoppers and this is a number that people can ring if they have any information concerning any crimes that they feel they need to tell the authorities about, anonymously, or otherwise.

If the person who asked this question was indeed posting it from the UK cannot differentiate between a service that you call to report a crime and a list of the most notorious serial killers to have ever walked the face of this earth, then I am surprised that they are able to operate a computer in the first place! To answer the question, no, this is not a crimestopper sort of thing. This is an archive of serial killers. This is also for all those other people who continue to ask the same old question, 'Why, oh why gather such terrible facts in the first place.'

The reason that such facts are assembled at all should be obvious, this is history. Many people from all walks of life can find material of interest here. Just because I am interested in serial killers and why they do it, doesn't mean that I condone their actions, hero worship them or am at all violent myself. Many respected figures in the medical and criminology fields spend most of their careers studying the exact same thing, yet nobody accuses them of being sick or twisted. Also, to all of those folk who complain about this site I would like to know why you chose to visit here in the first place? My respects to the webmaster here and his family for taking the time and effort to assemble such a vast archive of serial killers, who will doubtlessly be studied for as long as they continue to kill people.

your gona think im crazy but im not this is wild i fit the discription of these people and been having urges so keep an ear out for what I might do!

OH WHAT TANGLED WEBS WE WEAVE

By - Keith Hunter Jesperson
"The Happy Face Killer"

In response to some disturbing facts that have surfaced over the last few days through my contacts on the Net and my investigators and attorneys, I say the following :

Information has been uncovered which I had suspected all along. I believe that Joe Hiles is the son of a man who has connections to wealthy Political figures and Criminal Investigations Nationwide. The website he operates is a front for the manufacturing of evidence regarding unsolved crimes. "Serial Killer Central" is nothing more than a Police sting operation monitoring and obtaining the users information posted to it. The joke is on Hiles, as I used his website to post my information about Sondra London to show what kind of Ass she really is, and anything else I wanted to get out about myself. Now it is time to tell about Joe Hiles the Snitch.

Hiles is a Cocksucking Pig. A Pig just like his old man and his associates. The Piggy squealed to Detective Larson in California after giving him some Slop to feed on. The Weed, CA. case of 1988 is a lie I made up to test him. My girlfriend didn't live there and I never killed anyone in Weed. Just like I never killed anyone in Wyoming. He also ran squealing to Detective Robert Bogers in Florida with fabricated pages of Internet garbage to try and clear his own name. Squeal, squeal, squeal !

I have never seen a picture of Joe Hiles, but I began to wonder about this 19 year old that claims to go to college studying Criminal Psychology. So I pulled out my Crystal Ball and asked her to show me everything I needed to see. Slowly, slowly the clouded image cleared allowing me access to the magic Gypsy inside.

The first image was that of an old, nearly blind Gypsy Hag named Vienna Doll. She reminded me of Sondra London, as their images kept interchanging. Both women living in squalor. Both Trash Queens.

Then my Crystal Ball showed me them arguing over the serial killer Schaefer. Vienna Doll was telling lies that weren't true, driving Sondra away from her. Then I was shown Vienna Doll as someone called ŒKarolina Haggag'. One who interferes and tries to get close to her idol and lesbian fixation Sondra. "But what about all the stretch marks around Vienna Doll's mouth"? I asked my Crystal Ball. Then I was shown an image of her sucking a Big Pig, which reminded me to ask about this guy named Joe Hiles.

"Not Mr. T" ! I shouted at my Crystal Ball , as the smoke cleared to reveal his image. The picture got brighter and I could see the Fat Pig with the haircut of ŒMr. T' from the A-Team with the jewelry around his neck. Yes, this was the man called Joe Hiles- AKA ŒYoda'. Looks like Daddy Hiles feeds his Piglet well. Oink, oink.!

I must say, I love my Crystal Ball, she never lies to me. And after viewing such an array of disgusting human flesh I asked to see something of real interest. Something that would bring a rise to anyone who see's it. And that is where I'm off to now.

Thanks for the laughs Hags, Kids, and Jerks, but you can keep your Internet games and web scams, I'm outta here ! It's been fun, but time to move on down the road to bigger and better options. From now on a certain publishing group will be getting my full and ŒUndivided' attention. So Good Riddance. I'm signing Off !

Keith Hunter Jesperson
"The Happy Face Killer"

gee........maybe those who dont like your site shouldnt view it, its akin to turning the T.V channel............DUH!!!!!

Although we do not have as many serial killers in the UK as you have in the USA, some of them should be included. One of our most notorious murderers was Peter Sutcliffe, AKA The Yorkshire Ripper who offed at least 20+ women, half of them prostitutes. God, of course, was telling him to 'Go out and do it.' When arrested he stated that he was only doing what God told him to do and that he was only 'cleaning up.' The police can be blamed for the killings because they questioned him 10 times and were given evidence by his former friends, informing on him, yet failed to act. The killing spree started around 1966. He was caught in 1981 and released, the evidence that the police had against him was never used for some reason.

I found your page interesting and enlightening, although I can't say the same for every link I followed from it.

I noticed a post by a young girl from Australia on my earlier visit who has a morbid fascination with murder and it was answered by a Danny Rolling. Is this in fact you? I apologise for not having heard of you before, but I guess that the British media only sensationalises killers who make it to double figures. Rest assured though Danny, if this is your name, I am going to do a little more research and find out. Anyway, I found Danny's response to the Australian girl's post to be spiritual, intelligent and sensitive and if only all people who at some point in the past, had taken the life of another would follow Danny Rolling's example, then the world would certainly be a finer place.

Don't forget the prelude to Waco, The Miricale Valley Battle, with SIX dead, one of them a cop. Took place in Cochise County Arizona between 1979 and 1983

You guys are missing an obvious one: July 3rd, 1983, Tampa. Billy Ferry, friendly neighborhood delusional paranoiac, carries five gallons of gas into a Winn Dixie, douses the cash register lanes, and flicks his Bic. Five dead, including a toddler and her mom. Tampa's worst mass murder. C'mon you guys, pick it up.

In relation to the Moors Murderers, Ian Brady and Myra Hindley...

I have nurtured a certain fascination with this particular case study. Their wickedness in the murder of 10 year old Lesley Ann Downey is appalling, yet I am very curious. Does the recording of her last moments exist publicly?

I've been reading this homepage, and I have to give you credit for a well done job! There is just a little thing I would like to draw your attention to. You have written that Arnfinn Nesset will not be on the streets again by 2004. That is not correct. There is nothing wrong with your calculation. He has been released.

I must say you are one sick bastard. Is there something wrong with you? Why did you do all this research on animalistic murderering savages? Let them be forgotten, not broadcasted over the internet.

Tomorrow is the first trial date for the murder of Therese Johannesen, a norwegian schoolgirl. Thomas Q confessed to the murder in march 1996. The trial is very closely guarded since threats have been made to kill Quick. the mother of the girl will be present through the trial and she as well as thomas Quick will be under mild sedation, so that they both will endure the trial.

Quick was tied to the murder after the police found fragments of human bone at the site where he claimed to have buried the corpse of the girl.

During interrogation Quick has claimed that he was on the prowl for a new victim when he saw the nine-year old girl. He saw her, grabbed her and smashed her head against a rock, rendering her unconscious. Then he strangled her with a waistbelt. He claims to have butchered the body, placing the bodyparts in plastic bags. According to his own testimony he used a knife, two saws (one finetooth and one with coarser teeth), a hacksaw and a hammer.

After completing his job, he swam to the middle of a pond, discarding some of the remains of the girl by sinking them in the pond. Other parts he buried in three different places. Then he left for home, keeping one bodypart, which is unknown, as a memento.

"- I want to destroy, annihilate and humiliate" he claims. One year later he returns to Norway, and he burns the parts he buried the year before, using a finemesh metal net.

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